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This last weekend I had a chance to have a conversation with Penny Tompkins and James Lawley on their upcoming workshop – Symptoms & Systems: A Clean Approach – happening January 11-13, 2019 here in California.

The following is our conversation broken into three segments.

Segment 1 is about how working with symptoms and working with systems is more similar than we might suspect on first blush.

Segment 2 is musings about metaphor and the power they pack.

Segment 3 is our reasons we think learning live, face-to-face, eye-ball to eye-ball is the stickiest way to learn Clean (or any hands on skill).

As well as the video and audio provided on this post … We would like to invite you to join us for a Q&A call via Zoom meeting on October 20, 2018 – Yes, that is this coming Saturday!

You can register here for Ask Us Anything October 20, 2018

If you have a bit of Clean under your belt or have been wondering about working with metaphors with individuals or even groups, join us for this 60 minute ‘Clean Party’ where you can ask us anything about Clean Convergence 2019, the workshops that are on offer, and even any questions you have about Clean Language full stop.

Now … on to the conversation:

Segment 1 – It’s Not Two Things (7.5 minutes)

In this seven and a half minute segment, Penny and James talk about the workshop they are offering in California, January 2019 – Symptoms & Systems: A Clean Approach.

Now don’t worry. It’s not all just dry information about the workshop. It’s really quite a deep conversation about clean language, working in metaphor, and how this kind of thinking and questioning can help you in your work and life. 

So enjoy segment one and then head on down the page for segment 2

Register here for Ask Us Anything October 20, 2018:
https://zoom.us/meeting/register/4ed7fb6ec5837e37dc2040ba88984b7b

Or check out Clean Convergence 2019 here: http://cleanlanguagetraining.com/clean-convergence-2019-sharon-small/

Segment 2 – Musing on Metaphor  (10.5 minutes)

This segment is about ten and a half minutes. James and Penny go quite deeply into working with metaphor and the difference that makes for people and organizations.

So enjoy the next ten and a half minutes and we’ll see you soon for Segment three.

Register here for Ask Us Anything October 20, 2018:
https://zoom.us/meeting/register/4ed7fb6ec5837e37dc2040ba88984b7b

Or check out Clean Convergence 2019 here: http://cleanlanguagetraining.com/clean-convergence-2019-sharon-small/

Segment 3 – Like a Dog on a Bone  (5.5 minutes)

This short segment is about learning life and why one would want to travel halfway across the world to learn face-to-face, cheek-to-cheek and eyeball-to-eyeball with real live trainers not just in clean language, but in any skill you’re learning.

Register Here for Ask Us Anything October 20, 2018:
https://zoom.us/meeting/register/4ed7fb6ec5837e37dc2040ba88984b7b

Or check out Clean Convergence 2019 here: http://cleanlanguagetraining.com/clean-convergence-2019-sharon-small/